Hoka Bandera 25k Race Report – Frank Fisher

Hoka Bandera 25k Race Report – Frank Fisher

Race: Hoka Bandera Endurance Event 25k

Runner: Coach Frank Fisher

Race Date: 01/08/2023

Location: Bandera, TX

Results: 18th, 2:26:31

Strava Activity Link: https://www.strava.com/activities/8360705673/overview

3 Bests – What aspects of the race did you like the most?

It’s a super cool weekend with the 100k being a Golden Ticket race, so the vibes are fantastic! I really liked the course; challenging, technical but still fun and runnable. It’s fairly big for a trail race so lots of good competition close to home for me.

Not so much – Aspects of the race that didn’t do it for you

Parking was not great, but not the worst. Other than that, I didn’t have any issues.

Weird factor – What’s the weirdest thing about this race?

We have this super fun plant here in central Texas called the sotol. It’s like if you sent an aloe plant to spend the summer in hell and it came back angry and dehydrated with lots of tiny razor sharp teeth. The course is covered in these plants, and they’re almost impossible to miss while you’re running. At the same time they don’t really hurt when you run through them, you’ll just have a these tiny little cuts on your legs at the end of the day.

Highlights of your race – What did you do well and enjoy about your race in particular?

This was more of a hard training run for me, so not an ‘A’ race. My goal was to have a good strong run and beat my legs up a bit, so in the words of GW, “Mission accomplished!” I managed my effort really well, stayed on top of nutrition and hydration and had a solid race start to finish. The climbs and descents were strong, I handled the technical portions well, and came out unscathed (besides aforementioned minor scratches). I also wanted to stick my nose in it a little earlier in the race and ‘race it’, which I did, just so happened to be a really fast year.

Lessons for others – Share your pro-tips on the race to help the next runner

Don’t worry about the sotol. The climbs are punchy but short. Shoe choice is worth considering. You’ll want something with some heavier lugs and a rock plate, or lots of cushion to protect your feet. I did slip a fair bit, but lots of dry rocky sections with loose dirt, and also a good amount of bare rock on the downhills which can also be slick for some outsole compounds.

Lessons you learned that will help you next time around

Arrive a little earlier for better parking. The course is tough, but not scary tough. It’s very runnable so don’t be afraid to attack the front section a little harder.

Most important course specific knowledge to know about the race

Lots of rocks, but if you stay focused and go it’s not as slow as it looks. The first 7.5 miles are the most technical and slower part of the course, which is also where most of the vert comes in as you go up and down 3 large hills. It gets fast after that till the last climb around mile 13.5 which is probably the steepest and rockiest climb of the whole course, but it’s super short and only takes a 1-2 minutes. It pitches down real quick to a short technical descent and then you can hammer home the last 1.5 miles.

Aesthetics – Is it a pretty course?

Yes, this is a very pretty part of Texas. Quintessential Hill Country with a number of really nice views along the course.

Difficulty – Is it a tough course?

Yes. If Courtney Dauwalter says it’s tough, I think it’s tough. Although it doesn’t have a ton of vert, the technicality and punchy ups and downs make it a challenge. The conditions can certainly add to it too.

Organized and well run – Did it feel like a well-oiled machine or were they flying by the seat of their pants?

Very well done! Tejas Trails kills it.

Competition – Is there a strong field?

Yes! Lots of super fast regional folks as well as out of state peeps. I was impressed with how fast this race was. My time would normally be top 10, so this was an extra fast year. It made it lots of fun though, and some tight racing all the way through.

Logistics – Does it require a special handshake, registration a year in advance, hotels all booked? Give us the low down on the nuts and bolts of making the race happen.

Easy to get into, but it is a big weekend event that’s in a remote part of Texas so not a lot of hotels/lodging near the race course. There is camping around the start line. San Antonio and Kerrville are also both around an hour drive.

Aid Stations – Standard fare or anything special to know about the aid stations in terms of what’s available or when?

The 50k goes on at the same time as the 25k on Sunday, so well stocked aid stations with lots of volunteers. I didn’t stop so not totally sure what’s there, but given the size of the event I would expect a good spread.

Weather and typical race conditions

It’s Texas in the “winter”… It could be 75* and 99% humidity with some showers like it was for the 100k on Saturday, or it could be 55* clear and sunny like it was the next day for us.

Gear – Did you need anything special or is there anything you’d recommend for the next runner?

Other than shoes like I mentioned above, not really. Aids are close enough to not worry about having to carry a lot of water. Some people wore longer shorts or tights to protect their thighs from the sotol, but I don’t think it’s that bad.

Spectators – Is this a friendly course for your friends?

Yep. Really easy access for spectators. They do charge for non-racers to enter the state park, but the way the course is setup it’s easy to get around. Plenty of people cheering around the course.

How’s the Swag?

Nice long sleeve T-shirt. Cool awards for podium peeps, some sotol style sculptures, buckles for the 100k.

The Overall Score – How many stars do you give this race and do you recommend that others run it?

5 out of 5. Highly recommend the 25k for anyone looking for a good race in the winter. I think I’ll come back for the 50k next year. Of course, the 100k is a Golden Ticket race and Western States qualifier. Probably one of the better options to get the WS qualifier for those of in the Texas and southwest regions.

Frank Fisher is a coach with Team RunRun. To learn more about him or to work with him, check out his coach profile.

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Bandera 100k Race Report – Ricke Harris

Race: Hoka Bandera 100K

Runner: Ricke Harris

Race Date: 01/09/2021

Location: Bandera, TX

Results: 15:17:15

Strava Activity Link: https://strava.app.link/Lm0OWzDcedb

3 Bests – What aspects of the race did you like the most?

  1. COURSE – The beautiful vistas and challenging terrain. Two loops with a lot of rocks and steep climbs with sotol cactus plants growing in the most inconvenient places make this two-loop course a very rewarding sucker-punch you’ll want to do again!
  2. SUPPORT/ORGANIZATION – The race volunteers are all super awesome. I wanted to hug the guy making pancakes and bacon – but that would have been awkward and, you know…the virus. Even with the challenge of racing in a pandemic, this event was super-organized.
  3. VALUE – Tejas Trails runs an early-bird special if you can get on to their mailing list. Travelling to Texas and planning/paying for the supporting logistics can run up the bills. But having a chance for a deep discount on your race registration is a big help. Even at full price, though, you won’t be disappointed.

Not so much – Aspects of the race that didn’t do it for you

Okay, this is not really a negative this year. But, the topic of aid station water was a negative for me at this race last year so I’ll address it here. There is no water available at the Hill Country State Natural Area, where the race is ran. The RD has to bring in all his water for the aid stations and this is provided by a race sponsor (Crazy Water). This is an interesting spring water with minerals and (I think) electrolytes that are supposedly naturally-occurring when it is pumped out of the ground (I’m not sure about anything I just said and I hope I don’t get in trouble for using a band name here 😉 – I suggest you Google it). But, last year it was a negative because it tasted weird when all I wanted was just cold water. But, it didn’t bother me at all this year. What made the difference? Simply put, I expected it. I didn’t mix my own Tailwind so sweet and took more of the Tailwind offered at the aid station. I think because I both expected it AND I didn’t have the juxtaposition of an overly sweet beverage in my second water bottle, I really didn’t notice it that much. In fact, I went through a full bottle of it in between each aid station with no issues. So, just consider this if you run the race.

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Weird factor – What’s the weirdest thing about this race?

Dude… a bunch of people are running two 50K loops through rough terrain with plants that leave hundreds of tiny paper cuts on your legs and are loving it. THAT’S WEIRD!

Highlights of your race – What did you do well and enjoy about your race in particular?

  • PR!!!! Thanks Coach Erin!!!!
  • A conservative first loop.
  • Hiked any climb that I had to raise my head above normal running posture to see the top.
  • Held back on the descents to save my quads. Didn’t bomb the downhills. Okay, I did bomb one of them… sorry coach… but you DID tell me to “have fun”! 😉
  • Considering my nutrition and resupply needs before arriving at the aid station so I could get in and out with very little wasted time. I went a little long at a few aid stations later on, but most stops were well below my planned aid station turnaround time. The average time at aid stations was still faster than my plan.
  • Compared to last year, didn’t have to power hike until much later in the race. Focusing on good form and taking it bit by bit kept the speed of advance better than last year.

Lessons for others – Share your pro-tips on the race to help the next runner

  • Of course, don’t forget to SMILE, even when you don’t feel like it. Your face will tell your brain what to think even when your brain thinks its down in the dumps.
  • Have a plan, but don’t be afraid to tweak it mid race for the right reasons. I like to have an A, B, and C goal. A – aiming for the moon. B – what I think I can do. C – what I feel would define, for me, not wimping out. A plan never survives first contact with the enemy, but you need to have something to help shape the point from which you deviate when you have to problem-solve an issue or to let you know when you’re either smoking the course or about to run the wheels off. Don’t let “the plan” get in the way of having fun, though.
  • Set your watch to beep every mile and take a drink when it does.
  • Salt

bandera 100k race reportLessons you learned that will help you next time around

Unlike last year, I didn’t include salt tabs as part of my nutrition plan. I honestly don’t know why I blew that off – maybe because I didn’t use them as much in training. In the second loop, I noticed that I only wanted Pringles and pickles at the aid stations. It occurred to me that I needed salt (duh). The temp at the start was in the 30’s, so dehydration was insidious. Next year, I’m packing salt tabs.

Most important course specific knowledge to know about the race

Very hilly and rocky. Consider shoes with a rock plate or enough stack height to protect your feet. Make sure your shoes perform well in descents; jamming your toes around in too large of a toe box will leave your toenails behind. First year I ran, I used Altra Lone Peaks. Still love them and they did great, but the two box was just a bit sloppy for me (and my toenails). This year, I ran in Altra Timps. Also love them and they did great as well. No rock plate and the tread is a little less aggressive than my Lone Peaks, but the shoe grabbed my foot well while still giving my toes room to splay. No blisters and I still have my toenails. Everyone’s foot is different; this is just my own experience.

Aesthetics – Is it a pretty course?

Beautiful course!!! Don’t forget to stop and enjoy the views (unless, of course, you’re shooting for a WSER golden ticket or are on the cusp of a cut-off!

Difficulty – Is Bandera 100k a tough course?

YEP!

Organized and well run – Did it feel like a well-oiled machine or were they flying by the seat of their pants?

YEP!

Competition – Is there a strong field?

It’s a Hoka WSER golden ticket race and any finishers less than 17 hours earn a lottery entry to the WSER. So, there is plenty of competition if you’re looking for it. But there are plenty of first-time 100K-ers as well (even a few first time ultra runners!).

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Logistics – Does it require a special handshake, registration a year in advance, hotels all booked? Give us the low down on the nuts and bolts of making the race happen.

All the information is available on the Tejas Trails website. I didn’t have trouble finding a hotel within a month of the race. Last year I stayed in Hondo (not much there but closer to the race). This year I stayed NW of San Antonio in Boerne (much more there but plan on nearly an hour to the start). There are hotels in Bandera, which is the closest you can get without camping; Bandera is a small town venue. There is also primitive tent camping and RV camping at the start.

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Aid Stations – Standard fare or anything special to know about the aid stations in terms of what’s available or when?

Listed on the website. Tailwind and Crazy Water for hydration. Typical fare including cookies, chips, candy. Most aid stations also had pickles. A few had S-caps. Every other had either broth, ramen, quesadillas, etc. (or several).

Weather and typical race conditions

Last two years were cool (30s/40s) at the start and 50s during the day. Put a shell on after sunset and that worked for me.

Gear – Did you need anything special or is there anything you’d recommend for the next runner?

If you’re a hiker tend to spend longer on a course like me, learn to use poles. They may save your face on some of the descents after dark when you’re tired.

Spectators – Is this a friendly course for your friends?

Most aid stations have road access for crew and friends.

How’s the Swag?

Quality shirt and NICE buckle!

The Overall Score – How many stars do you give this race and do you recommend that others run it?

5 out of 5 stars

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Bandera 100K Race Report – Rick H

Race: Bandera 100K

Runner: Rick H

Race Date: 01/11/2020

Location: Hill Country State Natural Area, Bandera, TX

Results: 15:54:31

Strava Activity Link:  https://www.strava.com/activities/3004736853

3 Bests – What aspects of the race did you like the most?

  • Challenging course.
  • Beautiful landscape.
  • Positive volunteers and well-supported.

Not so much – Aspects of the race that didn’t do it for you

  • Due to a new course change, the course map and elevation profile was hard to interpret pre-race.
  • No plain water. Since there is no water available in the state natural area, it had to be brought in. Each aid station had a choice of soda or tailwind, but the only water was a mineral water provide by a race sponsor. The flavor of the water started to make me feel sick to my stomach around mile 40.

Weird factor – What’s the weirdest thing about this race?

Maybe not weird, but I saw Billy Yang filming at the start. I’ll go out on a limb here and say that he probably wasn’t there to see me. But you bet I’ll be looking for his Bandera 2020 video!

Highlights of your race – What did you do well and enjoy about your race in particular?

I ran my own race. The first couple miles were crowded as everyone got compressed into the single track quickly. But, staying patient paid off as I was able to maintain a steady pace for the first lap to make it through the first loop 30-minutes ahead of my A-goal. I stayed efficient at aid stations and didn’t linger unless I had something to do; this gave me more time to work through the course.

Lessons for others – Share your pro-tips on the race to help the next runner

  • Run your own race; not someone else’s.
  • If you’re not actually taking aid at an aid station – leave.
  • Travel light and use your drop bags; there’s no use carrying gloves all day when you won’t need them until after nightfall.
  • Stay positive – whenever you think of or hear someone say something negative, turn it into something positive; instead of, “there’s a monster climb ahead”, remind yourself, “it will feel AWESOME to conquer that next monster climb.”
  • SMILE. It actually makes you feel better.

Lessons you learned that will help you next time around

  • Cross train/train for climbing
  • More real food. Less gels.
  • Mt. Dew comes straight from heaven. So does bacon.

Most important course specific knowledge to know about the race

  • VERY rocky. Have sturdy footwear. I ran in Altra Lone Peaks which incorporate a rock plate in the sole and has deeper tread lugs than my other favorite (Topo Runventure).
  • Wear calf sleeves or high compression socks; if not for the compression, then to protect against the sotol cactus leaves cutting your legs up. You CAN’T avoid the sotol.

Aesthetics – Is it a pretty course?

BEAUTIFUL!

Difficulty – Is it a tough course?

It depends on your background. For a flatlander from Florida like me, it was very challenging. For someone who is used to vert, it may be somewhat middle-of-the road.

Organized and well run – Did it feel like a well-oiled machine or were they flying by the seat of their pants?

This was a very well-run race.

Competition – Is there a strong field?

Its a Western States qualifier… ’nuff said. 😉

Logistics – Does it require a special handshake, registration a year in advance, hotels all booked? Give us the low down on the nuts and bolts of making the race happen.

Everything is available on the website.

Aid Stations – Standard fare or anything special to know about the aid stations in terms of what’s available or when?

If you want water that doesn’t taste like minerals, bring your own. The tailwind does well to cover up the flavor, though. Everything else was standard with the addition of bacon, quesadillas, and hot ramen in the evening.

Weather and typical race conditions

2020 was nearly perfect. Mid-40s gave way to a clear blue sky in the mid-60’s. A lot of the course had at least some shade except for when the sun was directly overhead, which was helpful. Mid-30’s that evening was cold when not moving, though.

Gear – Did you need anything special or is there anything you’d recommend for the next runner?

My poles proved invaluable for the last 20 miles. They saved me from a couple near-falls on the descents after nightfall when my legs were spent.

Spectators – Is this a friendly course for your friends?

All aid stations can be reached by car.

How’s the Swag?

Awesome buckle and comfy long sleeved shirt.

The Overall Score – How many stars do you give this race and do you recommend that others run it?

5/5 stars. Highly recommend the experience. If you’re not up for 100K, there are shorter options

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Bandera 100k Race Report – Olin Berger

Race: Bandera 100k

Runner: Olin Berger

Race Date: 01/05/2019

Location: Camp Eagle, Texas

Results: 13 OA, 9:59:51

Strava Activity Link: https://www.strava.com/activities/2062630903

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3 Bests – What aspects of the race did you like the most?

  1. Set in beautiful hill country
  2. Great course markings and use of a small space for a big race
  3. Great support from RD’s and volunteers

Not so much – Aspects of the race that didn’t do it for you

Felt like 80% of the course was on rocks or hard pack. The feet took a pounding.

Weird factor – What’s the weirdest thing about this race?

Nothing much out of the ordinary here.

Highlights of your race – What did you do well and enjoy about your race in particular?

Not a great race for me. I tried to enjoy the scenery and learn lessons for the next one.

Lessons for others – Share your pro-tips on the race to help the next runner

  • Respect the course. I thought the minimal (in relation to many other ultras of the same distance) elevation would make Bandera much easier. But you still feel the climbs at the end and the hard pack and rocks really wear on you.
  • It’s January, but it still gets hot in TX, especially if you’re used to running in temperate climates.
  • An extra pair of shoes can be a big help. Just as a comfort for the feet or to switch to in case of a blow out.

Lessons you learned that will help you next time around

  • No matter how good you feel coming in, it’s going to feel bad at the end, be prepared.
  • Pacers can help you push yourself harder than you might on your own. Try to learn how to do the same without one.

Most important course specific knowledge to know about the race

Learn to run on rocks.

Aesthetics – Is it a pretty course?

  • Yes, beautiful Texas hill country. The course fits in a good amount of scenery in a small space.*
  • * – 2019 not run on the normal Bandera 100k course

Difficulty – Is it a tough course?

Coming into the race, I’d say no, especially in comparison to other courses with more elevation and/or technicality. But, at the end of the race, I’d tell you it’s plenty difficult.

Organized and well run – Did it feel like a well-oiled machine or were they flying by the seat of their pants?

Impressively well put-together, especially considering the very last minute venue change.

Competition – Is there a strong field?

Very much so. Being a Golden Ticket race for Western States brings out the speed.

Logistics – Does it require a special handshake, registration a year in advance, hotels all booked? Give us the low down on the nuts and bolts of making the race happen.

Texas is big and races there can hold a lot of runners, so getting into the race is fairly easy. But the location is somewhat remote, so you’re either camping onsite or in for a longish drive the morning of the race.

Aid Stations – Standard fare or anything special to know about the aid stations in terms of what’s available or when?

Standard

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Weather and typical race conditions

Freezing in the morning, pretty hot (esp coming from Seattle in January) in the day, and back to cold as the sun starts to set.

Gear – Did you need anything special or is there anything you’d recommend for the next guy?

Shoes that can protect you from pounding on rocks all day.

Spectators – Is this a friendly course for your friends?

Absolutely. The course loops through most aid stations multiple times and the aid stations are a short distance (not via the course route) from each other.

How’s the Swag?

Standard. They go big for the top prizes though.

The Overall Score – How many stars do you give this race and do you recommend that others run it?

It was certainly a different course than my standard and would be a good entry ultra given the lack of technicality. But it’s way out there in Texas, so you either have to really want to get to this particular race or have it be part of a larger trip.