Ragnar Rainier Race Report – Matt P

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Ragnar Rainier Race Report – Matt P

Race: Ragnar Rainier

Runner: Matt P

Race Date: 08/23/2019

Location: Crystal Mountain Ski Resort

Results: 50/240 overall (open)

Strava Activity Link: https://www.strava.com/activities/2645252972

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3 Bests – What aspects of the race did you like the most?

  1. Really well organized and very relaxed atmosphere – fun!
  2. Camping out and running trail loops is really fun.
  3. Night runs!

Not so much – Aspects of the race that didn’t do it for you

Don’t like the long periods of inactivity.

Weird factor – What’s the weirdest thing about this race?

The team costumes. Hard to call out just one.

Highlights of your race – What did you do well and enjoy about your race in particular?

I enjoyed 3 distinct effort types from the 3 legs. Green: Short and nice to put out an intense effort, Yellow: A steep climb with lots of optional running sections – kind of rough terrain. Red: Long and downhill with great views.

Lessons for others – Share your pro-tips on the race to help the next runner

Don’t camp close to the Ragnar village, so that you can actually sleep. Also, don’t expect to actually sleep 🙂

Here are the Strava links for each leg:
https://www.strava.com/activities/2645910491
https://www.strava.com/activities/2647749591
https://www.strava.com/activities/2645252972

Lessons you learned that will help you next time around

Stay warmed up closer to your run time – it can be hard to gauge but eventually you start to realize approx. how long your group is taking.

Most important course specific knowledge to know about the race

If the legs don’t change for next year — Yellow is the actual hardest for most regular runners probably. Red is the longest so it gets tagged as hardest but it’s actually probably the smoothest of all the legs. Green is a trick to put out all of your energy — depending on your training and purpose, maybe that’s what you want! Yellow is hardest because it’s rough terrain with some steep grades. The mid section is runnable and with a full tank all of it is runnable but it’s a difficult climb overall.

Aesthetics – Is it a pretty course?

Gorgeous! The views of Rainier, the gondola rides, etc — amazing!

Difficulty – Is it a tough course?

None of the legs are hard in their own right for a regular trail runner if managed properly. Not sleeping and being worn out over a couple days can make it particularly tough.

Organized and well run – Did it feel like a well-oiled machine or were they flying by the seat of their pants?

Pretty well-run and generally pretty chill.

Competition – Is there a strong field?

If you want to compete, there are folks out there pushing, and then usually ultra team setups, alternate routes for smaller teams and more mileage, etc.

Logistics – Does it require a special handshake, registration a year in advance, hotels all booked? Give us the low down on the nuts and bolts of making the race happen.

The organizer of your team needs to move early and stay on top of things to make it work. As a participant, I really just showed up, said hi, setup camp and started having fun!

Aid Stations – Standard fare or anything special to know about the aid stations in terms of what’s available or when?

Lack of energy bars, actually!

Weather and typical race conditions

It was chilly and can also be wet, but mid day is warm.

Gear – Did you need anything special or is there anything you’d recommend for the next guy?

I used distance poles on the yellow leg, and I also power hiked and outpaced people trying to run them, so I feel it was a good choice.

Spectators – Is this a friendly course for your friends?

Friends could definitely come out and spectate. Lots of room on the trails and campsites.

How’s the Swag?

Lots of stuff to buy in the Ragnar village, but the medals are unique!

The Overall Score – How many stars do you give this race and do you recommend that others run it?

I give it 4 stars for what it is: a fun relay race to do with friends!

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Ragnar Luckenbach – Jeff K

Race: Ragnar Luckenbach

Runner: Jeff K (the team was Jeff, Chris, David, Ben, Armon,  and Zach)

Date: 3/31/17

Location: Bastrop to Luckenbach TX.  192 mile relay

Results – 23hrs:45min (6 runner Ultra team) 1st place overall

3 Bests – what aspects of the race did you like the most

I have never done a Ragnar relay and surprised how fun it was.   My nephew Chris, who lives in Houston and his buddy put the team together and they initially recruited me to be the “old guy” on the team.   Actually, it turned out that I wasn’t the oldest as Christopher’s dad (My brother in law) got on the team as well.   We ended up with a diverse age group ranging from age 24 to 58.

We won the race.  The next team was an hour slower.

Our youngest team runner Ben, was 24.  He was really fast.  He could run the shorter 2-3 mile segments in the 5min pace range, and the remainder in the 6’s  It was really exciting to watch.

Not so much – aspects of the race that didn’t do it for you

Definitely could have done without the 90 degree heat.   I got the stomach cramps from dehydration after the second leg, and sunburned to top it off.

Weird factor – what’s the weirdest thing about this race

Things get generally weird between 2AM and 5 –  like you are in a dream state.

Highlights of your race – what did you do well and enjoy about your race in particular

Our team was in the last wave to start at 11:30AM on Friday.  I was in position three of the rotation.  It was already hot and that took its toll on us because we weren’t doing a good job of pace management. At this point in the race we should have been going slow, but we were trying to catch up to the teams who started earlier and pass them.  This ultimately lead to one of our runners dropping in the third segment because he just couldn’t keep any fluids or food down anymore.    We then  had to figure out how to cover the remaining legs with 5 runners and manage one of the 5 that wasn’t feeling so well.  Doing this was like trying to solve an impossible puzzle and almost laughable to watch.  No matter what combinations of who was doing what, it just seemed like somebody was going to get stuck with a bunch of extra miles!   I ran a double leg in the 4th to cover for the runner who was out.  The team was kind enough to let me know this right as I was finishing my leg that I could just “keep on going” and they’d meet me 4 miles down the road at the next checkpoint <ugh>.

Towards the end of the 5th segment it was around 4-5AM and still very dark.  There was this weird exchange where they had it decorated like a Santa’s Village complete with reindeer.  It even had this LED projection on the trees that looked like twinkling stars.   It was very surreal like you were on an acid trip.   Later we had a really good laugh about that.

By the start of the last segment, We knew we had passed a lot of runners and thought we were in the front or very close.  There was a race announce that there were two legs cancelled in the 6th  and we were to just drive to the checkpoint and start running again.   This actually worked well because we had another runner who was basically done after the 5th.  I had to pick up a longer segment than originally planned and finished it as strong as I could.   We would stop the van more than usual to set up a cheering station for our runner with cowbells and stuff like that so it made the last few hours really fun.,

 

Lessons for others – share your pro-tips on the race to help the next runner

We had a couple dedicated drivers (Chris’ and Ben’s wives)  this helped immensely as the runners didn’t have to worry about it.

Organization of your stuff is key.   The van quickly become a sea of clothes, banana peels, empty GU packs and junk.     I used a simple strategy where one compartment of my pack held all electronics and the other clothes. this made it easy to find stuff.

If you can, bring your own iPhone portable battery pack.  There will be a lot of competition for plugging it in to the van.

 

Lessons you learned that will help you next time around

I found out the hard way that team with some fast dudes and “effective pace management” can be mutually exclusive.   During the first part in the heat, I ran the opposite of proper pacing.  We all did.   Had I done this differently, I know I could have crushed the later segments in the cooler weather and not had any dehydration issues.  

 

Aesthetics – is it a pretty course

Yes.  You would see a lot of wildlife like deer and wild turkeys, and ranches with real Texas longhorn steers.  I think the river section with the cypress trees was the nicest, but it was unfortunately at night.  

 

Difficulty – is it a tough course

The question I had before this was … “Is a 50K or 50 miler harder or easier than a relay?”    The feeling is quite similar at the end of both.   Because of the sleep deprivation, and the fact you get cramped from riding in the van, the last leg is kind of like those final miles in an ultra.

 

Organized and well run – did it feel like a well-oiled machine or were they flying by the seat of their pants?

Ragnar is run by a corporation – Reebok I think.  It has the feeling of a corporate marathon with a lot of marketing behind it.

 

Competition – is there a strong field?

It probably varies greatly between race locations.   It seemed like in this Ragnar, some teams might have had a couple fast runners and the rest were recreational.   Some teams were clearly out there for the fun of it which was awesome.  Our team of 6 had two sub 3hr,  two low 3hr, and two 4hr marathoners and we won the race.  Had we had to race against a team that was comprised of the top 6 Chuckanut finishers, we would have been toast.   

 

Logistics – Does it require a special handshake, registration a year in advance, hotels all booked? Give us the low down on the nuts and bolts of making the race happen.

Luckily for me, our team captains set it all up.  All I had to do was book my own flight

Aid Stations

Not all the exchange points in a Ragnar have food and water.  You need to bring all your own stuff in the van.

 

Weather and typical race conditions –

This one was hot, like 90’s during the day.  Evenings and early morning were 60-70s.

 

Gear – did you need anything special or is there anything you’d recommend for the next guy?

The Ragnar handbook lists everything you need to bring.  And more.

 

Spectators – is this a friendly course for your friends

Could be, if they want to drive around and follow you

Awards –

We just got the same finisher medals as everyone else

 

The Overall Score – how many stars do you give this race and do you recommend that others run it

I think Ragnar is a bucket list kind of thing.  Someone might be able to convince me to do it again, but it might be a while.   I think with the right group you can have a fantastic fun time.